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Steve Stroh N8GNJ's avatar

As for the "single point of failure", this has bitten many Amateur Radio clubs that I've been associated with. Single points of failure include:

* FCC license for the club callsign being registered (and accessed in the FCC registration system) by a single individual who does not share or make it easy to find in their personal systems.

* Website hosting - again, single individual registered the site and paid the bill and updated the website.

* Domain registration - ditto.

* Repeater site relationship with the site owner. After a death of the single person who maintained the relationship with the site owner, and thus communiction ceased, the club gets a "get your stuff off my site" letter because the site owner could not communicate with the club about an issue like interference.

* Bank accounts for clubs.

Etc. You're very correct to be worried about points of failure, but the problem is much, much broader than that. For example... the radioid.net site / system / database is owned / hosted / maintained by a single person (last time I looked it up). EVERY Amateur Radio system for DMR, P25, NextEdge, etc. is dependent on this one database... what happens when that person dies?

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Tom - In my opinion, there is no need to "manually" ID using D-Star or System Fusion or M17 (or Packet Radio) because the user's AMATEUR RADIO CALLSIGN is embedded in the data stream of those modes. This was clarified quite some time ago during the packet radio era when it was expected that packet radio systems would ID via CW every ten minutes. When it was explained that the callsign IS in the data stream, then everyone relaxed. But while D-Star and System Fusion, M17, Packet Radio, etc. are all systems that are designed for Amateur Radio (and thus Amateur Radio callsigns), DMR is NOT designed for Amateur Radio and there is no way TO embed a callsign into a DMR radio. DMR was designed for commercial use and thus operate in commercial use by operating under a system license. What is transmitted in DMR is a user or radio ID. Amateur Raadio has adapted to that issue through the means of a central database at https://radioid.net. Thus when I'm operating on DMR, the ID that is transmitted is 3146960, which radioid.net assigned to me as translatable to N8GNJ. Some radios have the ability to hold (or even look up, via Internet connectivity) the DMR ID to a callsign, and display the callsign. I suspect the same is true with NextEdge and P25 digital voice systems, but I've never worked with those two.

But if the unit does not transmit an AMATEUR RADIO CALLSIGN, then it falls to the user to do so manually, at least every ten minutes during operation.

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